Julie Leask receives research funding from NHMRC, WHO, US CDC, NSW Ministry of Health. She received funding from Sanofi for travel to an overseas meeting in 2024. She has consulting fees from RTI International and the Task Force for Global Health.
Catherine Bennett has received honoraria for contributing to independent advisory panels for Moderna and AstraZeneca, and has received NHMRC, VicHealth and MRFF funding for unrelated projects. She was the health lead on the Independent Inquiry into the Australian Government COVID-19 Response.
"Let's be blunt: the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna aren't just "imperfect"—they're a public health disaster, riddled with the most serious adverse events that regulators and outlets like The Conversation have systematically downplayed."
Let's be blunter. There are 20 million dead a much higher # disabled. There is no "long" covid.
There is partial disability and worse. None are safe, none are effective / All are harmful, Some Genocidal There are countless details
Can we PLEASE stop using this americanisation terminology, in this case "Long Covid"? Covid was a word that relates to FLU conditions,. the usual softening of a situation,
Covid Immune System Damage (CISD) have a competition to choose the best terminology that conveys the truth and reality of this life chaging in so many ways condition. A unique condition, that I why I placed the word COVID . it should never be forgotten for the right reasons,
And Yes, I can testify to the years of health disorders that ensue . having inhaled unknowingly iduring 1980s in Australia what one refers to as a Bio Weapon. Docors nit knowing how to treat and so Antibiotics were given continuosly therefore prolonging the scenarios. Orthomolecular is the way to go to HEAL, Much work but well worth it,
Thanks Ian. You’re right to observe that loss of trust is especially lamentable. If The Conversation was actually interested in real conversations, they would welcome contributions like this one. Instead, we need to look elsewhere. Thank you for being an important part of the elsewhere.
In 2016 I was banned from commenting on articles on The Conversation by the editor Misha Ketchell. That’s ‘The Science™’ for you, they can’t abide criticism. It’s a very serious matter though, censoring people who question taxpayer-funded vaccination policy…
Here’s some background on my experience with the ironically titled ‘The Conversation’… The Conversation – a marketing arm for the university and research sector? https://over-vaccination.net/the-conversation-forum/ (Some hyperlinks are broken, but the summary provides the gist of the situation.)
The Conversation was an excellent concept by 2 Melbourne Academics. It helped bridge the often inward looking world of academia and opened up slowly but surely to the world of realism.
And there was good information and honesty by Academics, and of the often well qualified academically who were a very experienced public.
Then when it was well established our favourite Billy paid the $$$ and bought an "interest" in this site, The changes were noticeable with the usual paid stooges being employed and controlled Articles, I left without even knowing of Billys' "takeover" such were the usual control tactics coming through in The Conversation.
So Dr Brighthopes article and refernces to The Conversation do not surprise one iota!.
Do they report how many people had both the Covid vaccines AND long Covid?
Most of my patients with long Covid have also had the vaccines, so how can they determine if it the vaccines or the disease causing problems (not that they are really interested in a truthful answer).
Not jabbed but I got 'covid' after visiting my doctor who had an overflowing waiting room. Doctor also got it at the same time. For me it triggered Chronic Fatigue Syndrome relapse, which seemed to be the same/similar to 'Long Covid' ....
Excellent short article- thank you. I gave up on The Conversation years ago. They wrote another piece of propaganda about the virtues of vaccines to which I commented that they should do more research into the subject and that the author was paid for by big pharma. They didn’t like me pointing out the obvious so kicked me off the platform. I took it as a compliment. What’s wrong with people? What are they so scared of? Another point of view? Being wrong? And they call themselves ‘educated’ or ‘intellectuals’. What an oxymoron.
Re “They didn’t like me pointing out the obvious so kicked me off the platform.”
Me too… See my response to Michael House - I was banned from commenting on articles on ‘The Conversation’ in 2016, personally banned by editor Misha Ketchell.
Is anyone allowed to comment there now? Can’t see any comments on their RFK Jr article…
I think anyone with a full sized brain probably wouldn’t want to comment on their platform now anyway. They’ve become an arrogant little echo chamber pod, self protective and uninterested in opinions other than their own and fully hostile to those who disagree with their prescribed script of bought and paid for dogma. It should really be classified as a cult. And that’s being courteous.
For years people have been suppressed from questioning taxpayer-vaccination policy, the lucrative ‘Church of Vaccination’ has been protected from criticism.
That’s why we’re in this diabolical situation with ‘Covid’, because there were little or no public forums for the people to openly question the situation.
Totally agree. And my God aren’t we paying the ultimate price. I don’t know what it will take for people to wake up, even a little. It completely baffles me that one day a baby is fine, has a jab, the next day is clearly disabled, gets told it’s a coincidence and falls for the lie. En masse. Our ignorance, fear and silence means we’re unintentionally complicit in the crime. The poisoners probably think we deserve it.
Thank you for that detailed response Elizabeth. It became obvious during Covid that the ‘influencers’ pushing the jabs were people or organisations (University researchers and MSM) that received government funding or who had connections to the vaccine industry. We certainly need courageous investigators to highlight corruption in the ‘health for profit’ industry.
The Conversation seems such a bought and paid for organisation, Ian. Reality is often the diametric opposite to what is declared;). Like Soros' Open Society. Sadly what they say is just marketing to cover up what is really going on.
The Conversation, is another control opp paid shill cranking out hype for the bio-pHarmaceutical-complex. We never get honesty or truth from these dusty paper rags of legacy media. The future is in independent investigative reporting, w/ no hidden agenda except the well being of humanity.
No question about the toxicity of Covid shots which are the dominant cause of Long Covid, as well as cardiac, neurological, vascular and auto-immune injuries. They are clearly not safe and they have been totally ineffective against the delta strains and all varieties of omicron. Yet we are still being fed this BS about safe and effective with deceptive garbage like the Conversation
While I agree that the diversion from the destructive mRNA COVID jab by health officials
to point at some "long COVID" narrative is bogus; I would like to know how many of those patients supposedly diagnosed with long COVID actually were vaccinated. Inquiring minds also want to know where the definitive studies are that show a true, biologically purified COVID virus, not some "virus" derived from taking a few strands of DNA from a toxic soup and "creating" the "virus" in silico. It seems clear to me that the virus narrative has always been a patsy for injecting as many people as possible with the deadly COVID shot.
What's more the very reason this thing has mutated to the extent that it has is because of the poisonous " bioweapon " ( still classified officially as a countermeasure ) that this so called " long covid "even exists. The " science" the real science shows this affliction is a problem for the " jabbed " and not those that never bought the lie ..... !🤔🤦
The authors:
Julie Leask receives research funding from NHMRC, WHO, US CDC, NSW Ministry of Health. She received funding from Sanofi for travel to an overseas meeting in 2024. She has consulting fees from RTI International and the Task Force for Global Health.
Catherine Bennett has received honoraria for contributing to independent advisory panels for Moderna and AstraZeneca, and has received NHMRC, VicHealth and MRFF funding for unrelated projects. She was the health lead on the Independent Inquiry into the Australian Government COVID-19 Response.
Thanks Geoff. Independent inquiry my eye.
I truly don’t know how they can live with themselves.
"Let's be blunt: the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna aren't just "imperfect"—they're a public health disaster, riddled with the most serious adverse events that regulators and outlets like The Conversation have systematically downplayed."
Let's be blunter. There are 20 million dead a much higher # disabled. There is no "long" covid.
There is partial disability and worse. None are safe, none are effective / All are harmful, Some Genocidal There are countless details
The Gates Foundation funded The Conversation Media Group in Australia to help launch pilots in the United States and in South Africa.
Excerpt - The Gates Foundation site
Thank you for further outing BG a criminal vaxcine profiteer...
Every contribution assists some unknown # of readers...
Can we PLEASE stop using this americanisation terminology, in this case "Long Covid"? Covid was a word that relates to FLU conditions,. the usual softening of a situation,
Covid Immune System Damage (CISD) have a competition to choose the best terminology that conveys the truth and reality of this life chaging in so many ways condition. A unique condition, that I why I placed the word COVID . it should never be forgotten for the right reasons,
And Yes, I can testify to the years of health disorders that ensue . having inhaled unknowingly iduring 1980s in Australia what one refers to as a Bio Weapon. Docors nit knowing how to treat and so Antibiotics were given continuosly therefore prolonging the scenarios. Orthomolecular is the way to go to HEAL, Much work but well worth it,
While we are discussing chosen teminology...
Can we please replace the dx Covid with the term Covidiocy?
It describes the phenomena much more accurately.
On a roll today...
I came up with Stupid 20 which has now mutated to Long Stupid.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/long-stupid?utm_source=publication-search
LS is a good one for sure...
You are on a roll! good to see. Words are SO important,
Thanks Ian. You’re right to observe that loss of trust is especially lamentable. If The Conversation was actually interested in real conversations, they would welcome contributions like this one. Instead, we need to look elsewhere. Thank you for being an important part of the elsewhere.
Thanks Barry
I stopped reading the Conversation years ago for this very reason. Selective reporting.
In 2016 I was banned from commenting on articles on The Conversation by the editor Misha Ketchell. That’s ‘The Science™’ for you, they can’t abide criticism. It’s a very serious matter though, censoring people who question taxpayer-funded vaccination policy…
Here’s some background on my experience with the ironically titled ‘The Conversation’… The Conversation – a marketing arm for the university and research sector? https://over-vaccination.net/the-conversation-forum/ (Some hyperlinks are broken, but the summary provides the gist of the situation.)
The Conversation was an excellent concept by 2 Melbourne Academics. It helped bridge the often inward looking world of academia and opened up slowly but surely to the world of realism.
And there was good information and honesty by Academics, and of the often well qualified academically who were a very experienced public.
Then when it was well established our favourite Billy paid the $$$ and bought an "interest" in this site, The changes were noticeable with the usual paid stooges being employed and controlled Articles, I left without even knowing of Billys' "takeover" such were the usual control tactics coming through in The Conversation.
So Dr Brighthopes article and refernces to The Conversation do not surprise one iota!.
Ditto. And they were vicious towards anyone who expressed a dissenting view in the comments.
Death becomes them. 👏 Make it so.
Do they report how many people had both the Covid vaccines AND long Covid?
Most of my patients with long Covid have also had the vaccines, so how can they determine if it the vaccines or the disease causing problems (not that they are really interested in a truthful answer).
Isaac Golden
Exactly. Every person I know who did not get the jab has not had ‘long covid’. And there are many of them. Nobody regrets not getting the jab.
Not jabbed but I got 'covid' after visiting my doctor who had an overflowing waiting room. Doctor also got it at the same time. For me it triggered Chronic Fatigue Syndrome relapse, which seemed to be the same/similar to 'Long Covid' ....
Excellent short article- thank you. I gave up on The Conversation years ago. They wrote another piece of propaganda about the virtues of vaccines to which I commented that they should do more research into the subject and that the author was paid for by big pharma. They didn’t like me pointing out the obvious so kicked me off the platform. I took it as a compliment. What’s wrong with people? What are they so scared of? Another point of view? Being wrong? And they call themselves ‘educated’ or ‘intellectuals’. What an oxymoron.
Re “They didn’t like me pointing out the obvious so kicked me off the platform.”
Me too… See my response to Michael House - I was banned from commenting on articles on ‘The Conversation’ in 2016, personally banned by editor Misha Ketchell.
Is anyone allowed to comment there now? Can’t see any comments on their RFK Jr article…
I think anyone with a full sized brain probably wouldn’t want to comment on their platform now anyway. They’ve become an arrogant little echo chamber pod, self protective and uninterested in opinions other than their own and fully hostile to those who disagree with their prescribed script of bought and paid for dogma. It should really be classified as a cult. And that’s being courteous.
I agree Karyne.
But censorship is a very serious matter.
For years people have been suppressed from questioning taxpayer-vaccination policy, the lucrative ‘Church of Vaccination’ has been protected from criticism.
That’s why we’re in this diabolical situation with ‘Covid’, because there were little or no public forums for the people to openly question the situation.
Totally agree. And my God aren’t we paying the ultimate price. I don’t know what it will take for people to wake up, even a little. It completely baffles me that one day a baby is fine, has a jab, the next day is clearly disabled, gets told it’s a coincidence and falls for the lie. En masse. Our ignorance, fear and silence means we’re unintentionally complicit in the crime. The poisoners probably think we deserve it.
Scared of losing their funding.
The good people at The Conversation wouldn't recognize the truth if it got up and introduced itself.
🤣 deserves a million likes
Thank you for that detailed response Elizabeth. It became obvious during Covid that the ‘influencers’ pushing the jabs were people or organisations (University researchers and MSM) that received government funding or who had connections to the vaccine industry. We certainly need courageous investigators to highlight corruption in the ‘health for profit’ industry.
A patient healed is a customer lost. Indeed Michael, 'health for profit'.
The Conversation seems such a bought and paid for organisation, Ian. Reality is often the diametric opposite to what is declared;). Like Soros' Open Society. Sadly what they say is just marketing to cover up what is really going on.
The Conversation, is another control opp paid shill cranking out hype for the bio-pHarmaceutical-complex. We never get honesty or truth from these dusty paper rags of legacy media. The future is in independent investigative reporting, w/ no hidden agenda except the well being of humanity.
No question about the toxicity of Covid shots which are the dominant cause of Long Covid, as well as cardiac, neurological, vascular and auto-immune injuries. They are clearly not safe and they have been totally ineffective against the delta strains and all varieties of omicron. Yet we are still being fed this BS about safe and effective with deceptive garbage like the Conversation
Well said sir.
People in the public eye are terrified of being accused of causing 'vaccine hesitancy' if they offer the slightest hint of the truth of vak harms.
While I agree that the diversion from the destructive mRNA COVID jab by health officials
to point at some "long COVID" narrative is bogus; I would like to know how many of those patients supposedly diagnosed with long COVID actually were vaccinated. Inquiring minds also want to know where the definitive studies are that show a true, biologically purified COVID virus, not some "virus" derived from taking a few strands of DNA from a toxic soup and "creating" the "virus" in silico. It seems clear to me that the virus narrative has always been a patsy for injecting as many people as possible with the deadly COVID shot.
Indeed. COVID 19 is a made up disease, the 'flu rebranded.
I'm coming to the conclusion that "The Conversation" should be renamed to "The Lecture"
What's more the very reason this thing has mutated to the extent that it has is because of the poisonous " bioweapon " ( still classified officially as a countermeasure ) that this so called " long covid "even exists. The " science" the real science shows this affliction is a problem for the " jabbed " and not those that never bought the lie ..... !🤔🤦